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1. July's Remote Viewing challenge - instructions
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last updated at Jul 07, 2004 04:52 a.m. (1 times)
(This replaces the previous post that in the subject line mentioned June instead of July.)

RV instructions

Welcome to the third Remote Viewing challenge. Everyone is invited to join. No special skills are needed. It costs nothing.

The third Remove Viewing will be much like the previous ones. The ASD Psiberdreaming Conference 2003 featured a Remote Viewing contest organized by Dale Graff. We will follow Dale Graff's approach closely. There is one difference. It is a secret who is playing "Dale".


Target and date

Dale's approach means that the target provider will be actually at the target location, and will try to send the target to the viewers for 30 minutes. The target provider makes photo's that will be shown later.

The date is set for what will be Sunday, July 11, 2004 for most of us, and Monday for the Australians. The target provider will start sending at the following time:

- Sydney, Brisbane: 5 am (on Monday)
- Istanbul: 10 pm (Sunday)
- Amsterdam, Berlin, Copenhagen: 9 pm (Sunday)
- London: 8 pm (Sunday)
- New York: 3 pm (Sunday)
- Los Angeles: noon (Sunday)
- Honolulu: 9 am (Sunday)

For more times, see Time and Date.com

Time not right for you? It will also work when you do it later.


Submitting results

There are a few rules when you want to officially join the challenge.

You're expected to send in a description of the location, obviously. One or more sketches will greatly help. Email your results to the target provider of this month, at the following email address: rvtargetjuly04@yahoo.com, and make sure to do so within 72 hours after the start of this challenge. Simply add three days to the time above.

Please note: this is a new address. Do not use one of the previous addresses. Use this new address.


Discussion of the results

After the three days, I will open a discussion thread, introduce the target provider to you all, and ask you to post your results online.

About deciding who wins. It depends on what we consider important about the description. We could approach it as a way to locate the target. Or we could approach it as an exploration of the target. I suggest we give more weight to the first, the usefulness of the description for locating the target.

There are no other guidelines yet on deciding who wins. The target provider will accept advice on how to decide, but is the only one who gets to make the final decision.

Good luck!

Harry

P.S. Did I mention the challenge is open to everyone? Give it a try, it's fun! There's a webpage (badly in need for an update) with some background information.


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Date: Jul 06, 2004 on 10:58 p.m.
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Harry tells me that there's something unique about this month's target

I think I may need to tune in to find out.

Jean

Date: Jul 07, 2004 on 05:08 a.m.
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Okay Harry - I'm joining in - and thanks for putting up Brisbane time - very egalitarian!!
YES Jean - why is it different??? - ah Harry you love to play games and its FUN to join in.
Kathy
Date: Jul 07, 2004 on 02:33 p.m.
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Dear Harry:

I need clarification on your following remark:

<About deciding who wins. It depends on what we consider important about the description. We could approach it as a way to locate the target. Or we could approach it as an exploration of the target. I suggest we give more weight to the first, the usefulness of the description for locating the target.>

How do we differentiate "locating" the target, vs. "exploring" the target? I am a bit confused. Does "locating" mean on a map? Does "exploring" the target mean describing/drawing the target?

Please clarify. Thank you very much.

Goshengolly

Date: Jul 07, 2004 on 03:36 p.m.
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Jean (Jul 07, 2004 05:08 a.m.):
Harry tells me that there's something unique about this month's target

I think I may need to tune in to find out.

Jean



He told you? He said the same thing to me, too!

I'm in!


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Date: Jul 07, 2004 on 10:00 p.m.
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Hi Goshengolly,

After the RV's we've had so far, I should reconsider this statement about deciding who wins. I wrote it coming from the PSI Angels, where - in my opinion - the hardest we sometimes need to do, is to locate things. I think it is easier to just describe something in general, because it offers more room to hit something. The rules for the RV challenge could be different, but I haven't given it much thought yet.

Let's say there's an entry that has many of the details of the inside of a location, and there's an entry that offers only one outstanding feature of the outside of the location. With the PSI Angels, if it's a search mission, entry #2 would probably be the most useful.

If there was no specific purpose except to remote review as best as possible, entry #1 would be the most impressive.

At this point, I'm just excited if everybody succeeds in getting something of the location, no matter what. Who wins and why, that's open to discussion, and will probably remain so for a while. In the meantime I encourage target providers to make their own decisions.

Harry


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Date: Jul 07, 2004 on 11:18 p.m.
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Harry Bosma (Jul 07, 2004 11:27 p.m.):
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Hi Goshengolly,

After the RV's we've had so far, I should reconsider this statement about deciding who wins. I wrote it coming from the PSI Angels, where - in my opinion - the hardest we sometimes need to do, is to locate things. I think it is easier to just describe something in general, because it offers more room to hit something. The rules for the RV challenge could be different, but I haven't given it much thought yet.

Let's say there's an entry that has many of the details of the inside of a location, and there's an entry that offers only one outstanding feature of the outside of the location. With the PSI Angels, if it's a search mission, entry #2 would probably be the most useful.

If there was no specific purpose except to remote review as best as possible, entry #1 would be the most impressive.

At this point, I'm just excited if everybody succeeds in getting something of the location, no matter what. Who wins and why, that's open to discussion, and will probably remain so for a while. In the meantime I encourage target providers to make their own decisions.

Harry


Harry -
A suggestion, to you as well as to future RV senders. I propose that they use the following criteria for each entry:

1) general geographic location
2) specific details of the location (physical description, including sketches)
3) symbolic signficance of the location

Each of these could be rated on a scale of 1 to 5. Using last month's target as an example, someone who got the location as Istanbul would get a 4 or 5 for category 1, even if they zeroed in on Hagia Sophia instead of Hero's Tower. Someone who saw a tower on an island would get a 5 for category 2, even if the tower was located in Australia. Someone who twigged to the emotional impact of the myth of Hero and Leander would get a 5 for category 3, even if they saw no towers and had no idea where in the world they were. If I rate my own entry last month on this basis, I get the following (maybe not everyone would agree):

Category 1: 3 or 4 (southeastern Europe)
Category 2: 3 (isolated tree resembles a tower)
Category 3: 1 (no relation to the symbolic content)

I suppose it would be up to the sender whether to designate 3 separate "winners" for each category, or to combine scores for all 3 categories to name composite high scorers. Also, as you point out, it might not be appropriate to rank the categories equally. (Of course, just by participating we are all "winners"!!) More food for thought!

Curt

Date: Jul 08, 2004 on 04:24 a.m.
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Curt, sounds good to me.

Perhaps also add something for honourable mentions, for picking up anything else that is related to the Remote Viewing. It would acknowledge being successful at trying.

It could be picking up something while the sender is traveling towards or from the destination, color of clothes worn by the sender, anything that happens while at the location, and so on.


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Date: Jul 08, 2004 on 10:21 a.m.
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Dear Harry and Curt:

Okay, thanks for the clarification! It's kind of hard to "hone in on a target" when you're not sure what elements that you're supposed to be looking for, so this helps a lot!

Also, I like the scoring system because it breaks the successful hits down into discrete categories of elements that we should be looking for; and allows everyone an opportunity to earn points for the pieces of information they gather. Thank you very much! (And thank you, Ed, because I know you had suggested this scoring system in reviewing June's contest results).

XO,

Goshengolly

Date: Jul 08, 2004 on 03:03 p.m.
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Can you tell me what "Gosheengollly" means. I can't find the meaning in dictionaries? - ilkin
Date: Jul 10, 2004 on 06:26 p.m.
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Elif:

"Hone in on target"

Hone = "Focus" on the target, capture the target, etc.

Hope that helps. See you in my dreams,
Laura

Date: Jul 10, 2004 on 07:28 p.m.
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Or did you mean 'What does the nickname Goshengolly mean'?, Elif? I thought it was a compound of 'gosh' and 'golly' and these are undoubtedly in your dictionary - but I may be wrong. It is how I've always understood Goshengolly's nickname anyway.

Berthe

Date: Jul 12, 2004 on 03:23 a.m.
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If you already submitted your viewing, great!

If not, we are in the last 24 hours. If you are hesitating, submit anyway! Not to me, but to the target provider, at the following address:

rvtargetjuly04@yahoo.com

Good luck!

Harry


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Date: Jul 13, 2004 on 11:35 a.m.
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