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1. May's Remote Viewing challenge - results
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The 72 hours for submitting have past. I'm now going to reveal the target provider. The target (hear the drum roll) for the first RV challenge (more drum roll) was Laura Atkinson.

I had planned to ask you all to post your results to this Board, but Laura already made a page with all the submitted results. As there is a prize, there has to be a winner. Laura provided the target, so she gets to decide the winner. Everyone is however invited to comment on the results.

Laura, thanks for providing an excellent target, for donating the prize, and for everything else you've done to make the first challenge such a great experience. Now, please show us the results!


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Date: May 18, 2004 on 09:31 a.m.
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To start, I want to thank Harry for masterminding this contest, and allowing me to be the first target person. YAY HARRY!!!

I must say that I am so incredibly impressed with everyone's dreaming and RV ability. This contest was unlike Dales' online experiment from last year where everyone knew that the target was going to be Dale (we just didn't know where he was going to be). In this particular contest, not only was the target area a secret, but the target sender was too. Once the reports started pouring in, I was fully amazed about the number of hits. I read (and re-read) everyone’s reports with awe.

This link will send you to the page and target information:
http://www.arthatglows.com/rv_target.htm

This link will send you to the page where everyone’s e-mailed reports are:
http://www.arthatglows.com/rv_submitted.htm

I am very interested in the connections that were reported that related to events immediately after the 30 minute RV. After the 30 minutes I spend “sending” the target – I was very hot and perspiring from being in the sun. It was usually hot and humid day. I stopped at the Whole Foods store and bought a salad and a new drink called “Switch – Watermelon-Strawberry”. I went home and changed into my bathing suit, and sat on my very large and colorful beach towel and sat in the sun. There are always children playing outside on my street. They were having double-dutch jump rope contests and singing.
Goshengolly mentioned “watermelon” flavor in her dream. The drink that I bought at the store was very flavorful, and refreshing and cold (like ice cream is!).
Berthe described the weather, and the children playing, and a giant colorful fan made of many colors. My beach towel looks very similar to the colors in her sketch—blended prismatic colors.

Also -I would like to report on the process of choosing the target area itself. I had several distinct landmarks and target areas to choose from. Originally, I had about 5-6 right off the top of my head. On Tuesday, May 12, 2004 – I narrowed down the possible targets down to two choices. Where I would go would depend on the weather forecast.
1) if sunny and I could be outside – Frazier Terrace with the Sculpture of Orpheus Ascending
2) if overcast and gray – I would take a tour inside the Russian Submarine that is in Providence, RI
** Both Diana and Harry mention the appearance of submarines.

The toughest part of this was making my choices for 1st 2nd and 3rd place. They are based of my own interpretations of the reports of waking and dreaming RV, with sound advice provided to me by Harry. With all that background information, the Top 3 are:

There is a two-way tie for first place: Diana & Ilkin
Second Place: Victoria
Third Place: Terry

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Laura’s Comments about Diana’s Report:
DIRECT HIT
Diana has successfully picked up on major factors of the target area. Two buildings, and windows side by side. She also picked up on Escher which could be a connection to the art museum across from the target site. She definitely conveyed an answer to my question about angle, and watching the target site from above. I consider Diana’s references to Paris Hilton and her (unusual) face significant because I mentioned in my report that the statues have no distinct facial features. (Also – the fact that they are semi-nude – like Paris’s scandal –but we don’t need to elaborate on that!) Diana’s comments on the dream mention a monument.

Diana’s sketch looks like the landscape where I was, if one was looking towards the target area from a distance. One street down from the area where I was is the First Baptist Church, which has a huge (I mean HUGE) steeple.
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Laura’s Comments about Victoria’s report:
STRONG HIT
“This looks like Green Greece”. Victoria has successfully picked up on the theme of the statue – based on Greek Mythology. There is green grass and other greenery surrounding the statue itself. She also accurately mentioned a clearing / plateau. There are three layers of stairs and clearings – the statue being on the middle “plateau” area. Victoria also mentioned the nearby trees, as you can see from the photographs, there are several large trees.
Victorias sketch indicates both a circle and the green grass area. The sketch is strong despite the fact that the target area had no mountains.
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Laura’s Comments about Goshengolly’s report:
INDIRECT HIT
Goshengolly’s sketch impresses me because of the accurate depiction of the circle and something vertical coming out of the top middle of the circle, and two lines going down below the circle. If I had seen this image alone without the Space Needle reference – it would have made me abstractly think of the Greek myth – Orpheus had to stay above the earth, while his wife and Hades descended below.
Even though the dream of the Eiffel Tower or Space Needle does not depict the target area, the reference to paste / paint (across from the museum) and watermelon (the after RV drink) I consider qualify as psi.
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Laura’s Comments about Terry’s report:
HIT
Terry has accurately referenced the target as a statue, pillar of stone. Even though the statue wasn’t of a lion, she still picked up on the general target area
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Laura’s Comments on Kay:
HIT
Kay has reported aspects of the target area. The sculpture is also a water fountain, and has a small water reservoir. Obviously, this target was man made, and the shape of part of the basin is not exactly round. I had never heard the term sluice gate, so I did email Kay for clarification, and I appreciate the quick reply. Even though the target didn’t have a sluice gate - based on her description: “a man made device for controlling water levels” related to the water fountain aspect of the target.
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Laura’s Comments about Berthe’s report:
INDIRECT HIT
Although Berthe does not describe the target area, she does mention significant things that I did AFTER the RV session. Because of the unusually warm and humid day, I sat on my porch in my bathing suit, sitting on a towel very much like her sketch. My neighborhood is full of children who were playing jump rope at the time I was enjoying the sun.
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Laura’s Comments about Ilkin’s report:
DIRECT HIT
Not only has Ilkin hit segments of the target area, but she has been the only person who has identified the target “person” and the actual name of the target city! (“Sunstar” is an alternate screen name of mine. Although she may remember that screen name from the online groups, she did not have any prior knowledge that I was the sender.)
Ilkin mentions water, the time was afternoon, the pollen (in the air was causing people to sneeze- there were actual pollen warnings on the weather channel) the city area is a combination of old, new, high and low buildings, trees, and bridges. The shapes of the statues were mostly curved. She does mention the word angle, but I am not certain on what she means by that.

She mentions that the initial impression was the Statue of Liberty…a woman standing in water. Part of the target was a female standing in water.

She also mentions music, which I believe picks up on the actual theme of the statue – Orpheus with a musical instrument.
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Laura’s Comments about Curt’s report:
HIT
Curt succeeds in identifying the green grass (although there is no golf course). There was also yellow in the direct area where I was sitting. The whole image was viewed and sketched, photographed from above. The only thing that I could relate the color purple: I drive a purple car, which is just out of line of site in the photograph.

Curt’s 1st images look like a golf course with the 18th hole flag. But if you remove the association with a golf course and look at the second bottom image, there is the circular area reference, with something vertical coming up from the middle of the circle. There is some type of action with the blue/purple? Lines that could indicate water movement? Also – it would indicate the green of the grass that was surrounding the actual target.
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Laura’s Comments about Harry’s report:
INDIRECT HIT
Harry and I were in constant communication about the RV Contest. The only knowledge that Harry had was that I narrowed down the “target” to two possible targets areas. I was even a bit elusive with Harry- explaining that my son would be away for the weekend, giving me the option to travel, and then going on to say that I may or may not travel out of my general area.

Well Harry – You picked up on my second alternate target area. J There is a Russian Submarine in Providence. In order to get to the submarine, one must travel over a small hanging bridge that crosses the bay. I have provided a website link to this museum: http://www.providenceri.com/special/sub/hours.html
You did identify there was water at the target area. J
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Laura’s Comments about Kathy’s report:

HIT

Kathy mentions stone and references looking at the target from quite high up in her report. The weather was beautiful that day, and the sky was blue, although the trees were providing a lot of shade. The color green is also mentioned, which could be associated with the grass.
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Laura’s Comments about Rita’s report:

HIT

I really enjoyed the way that Rita went about describing the images, resisting her scientific and analytical abilities to put a name or label to what she was describing.

She accurately described this area as a quiet place, and referenced a patterned center similar to the sculptures qualities (round circular base with the figures being a type of nucleus). Rita also references a shallow bowl-like image. The target itself was below and to the left of me.

She also has indirect hit about the church in the same general area with the huge steeple that I mentioned earlier. Across the street from this sculpture is an art museum.

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Laura’s Comments about Ralf’s report:

HIT

Ralf mentions washing a woman’s leg. When I touched the water in the fountain, it was near the female figure’s feet. Also an indirect hit – this has been the second direct reference to insulin that I have received in the past three days. (My father was recently diagnosed, and we had a lengthy discussion about my needle paranoia, and how I didn’t think I would be able to give myself injections. He warned me to take better care of myself.)

Date: May 18, 2004 on 09:43 a.m.
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3. Re:May's Remote Viewing challenge - results
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Wow!

And fun, too! Well, I for one feel greatly encouraged, the base of the fountain looks like one of my 'ponds', brownish water with light reflecting off it (not that I thought to describe that... learning curve!) - although how I could miss those massive figures above it...? Or how I multiplied it by so many...?

The process was interesting. I was online when I suddenly realised that it was gone the time by a couple of minutes, and I wondered if I'd get anything. And then I got the image, and then nothing more. I was relaxed, but not paying very much attention, as in trying particularly hard. I just went with what came.

When do we get to do the next one?!

And thanks!

Date: May 18, 2004 on 10:06 a.m.
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Dear Laura:

Thank you for your thorough analysis of everyone's perceptions of your target in this RV session. I know it must have taken a lot of time and thought on your part, yet it is very instructive in how difficult it is in analyzing the individual perceptions of a community of people picking up "bits and pieces" of a larger jig-saw puzzle.... Thank you for your great effort!

XO,

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Date: May 18, 2004 on 03:01 p.m.
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Congratulations Diana, Ilkin, Victoria and Terry!!!
And Laura - what a beautiful job you've done - thank you - and thank you to Harry too!
Now (obviously this is a biased viewing maybe) I'm intrigued by the number of drawings with a series of crenellated (spelling???) shapes (Diana's and Victoria's and the towel and.mine and .and even the one of the single triangular shape) - because they are just what strike me about your image from where you viewed it: ie the overall shape of the top part of the sculpture repeated in a more geometric manner by the amazing repeated shapes in the stair railing through which you are looking.
It seems that you Victoria really centered on that - repeating it twice too - in your mountains and trees. AND they're NOT upside down Jojafar!!!!
Great FUN.
What a game to play!
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Date: May 18, 2004 on 04:12 p.m.
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That was fun! Thanks Laura for a wonderful explanation and presentation of what was viewed and the story behind it. I've heard of Morpheus "The Matrix", but not Orpheus, the name is familiar, but I don't know why the story is not.

What I found fascinating was the secondary target of a submarine. It stuck out like some question from an SAT test, what doesn't belong? Why might the periphery be clear versus the center of things?

http://groups.msn.com/TravelingWit/sketchbook.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=331
My beach work in progress....looking at the visuals sent in, I wonder if there were mutual remote viewings. I was looking at Berthe's drawing and thought of the rainbow kites (poor photo), but the painting in progress is based upon them.

Date: May 18, 2004 on 10:38 p.m.
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Rita - were you dreaming with EVERYONE???? I see Curt's image in your dream; I see Berthe's fan shaped towel and if I twist my image on the side I see my tower (your tunnel) and Ilkin's (?) tower.
Mmmm stranger and stranger......
Kathy
Date: May 19, 2004 on 12:23 a.m.
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Hi, all you lucky remote viewers! Congratulations on your achievements!
I am a bit jellous - it took me ages to find my long range glasses this morning
Cheers Jajofar
Date: May 19, 2004 on 12:50 a.m.
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[quote]Diana T (May 18, 2004 10:38 p.m.):
That was fun! Thanks Laura for a wonderful explanation and presentation of what was viewed and the story behind it. I've heard of Morpheus "The Matrix", but not Orpheus, the name is familiar, but I don't know why the story is not.

What I found fascinating was the secondary target of a submarine. It stuck out like some question from an SAT test, what doesn't belong? Why might the periphery be clear versus the center of things?

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Diana -
Well, Orpheus descends into the underworld to retrieve his beloved Eurydice -- as submarines descend into the undersea... Morpheus, too, has a submarine, the Nebuchadnezzar (= "Mercury protects the borders", which submarines sometimes do) -- and his name is that of the Greek god of dreams. Every dream is a kind of descent into the underworld, isn't it? Also, Neo descends into the Matrix to rescue Trinity in The Matrix Reloaded. Never thought of the connection between him and Orpheus, though.

Come to think of it, the object of golf is to make your golf ball go into the cup, which is depressed below the surface of the ground, and each of the 18 successive challenges to do this in a round of golf is called a "hole". But after the 18th (= The Moon in Tarot), one "ascends" and goes on to the "19th hole" -- the bar (= The Sun in Tarot -- cf. the 19-year solilunar cycle) where one imbibes "spirit". (My apologies for shamelessly hijacking my own dream here!)

Harry and Laura, thanks for a wonderfully entertaining contest!

Curt

Date: May 19, 2004 on 03:41 a.m.
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I am glad to read that everyone has enjoyed this contest.

Diana and Ilkin - Could you please email me your mailing addresses? Send to ArtThatGlows@aol.com (I know I probably have it on file somewhere, but I am rather disorganized lately.)

I am also glad to see that others are making connections to the target area and to each others dreams that I may have not been obvious to me.

Curt - hijack away because you bring up a good point about submarines. The sculpture itself captures the moment after the ascension, and the descension of his wife and Hades. Honestly I was more focused on the "rise" instead of the "fall" part of the myth. Just because I personally didn't make the connection, didn't mean that there isn't one. When Diana and Harry both mentioned submarines, I instantly thought: "How did they know the alternative target?"

Thinking more about this, Rita mentioned angels (?) and angels ascend into the heavens too.

This game has taught me important lessons about connectedness and interpretation.

Looking forward to hearing more from you,
Laura A

Date: May 19, 2004 on 06:31 a.m.
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Laura and Harry,

Thankyou very much for giving us this opportunity. It helped me learning to trust my awake experiences. I didn't have much awake intentional experience and could trust only my dreams. I hesitated to submit my RV but the result is more than I wait. Laura; the girls right arm in my dream was also at her side, a little in front as your scupture. What kind of a musical instrument Orpheus have? It didn't come to my mind to think about the music. If my memory is right, they play lir (and /or some old instruments) in Carmina Burana.

Kathy, if I had any little ability I would draw the same. "Hisar" in your photo from Istanbul was the first place I remember when I woke up but since it is in my neighborhood I dismissed any idea related with there. I am happy we both visited the same historical place. Now you learned the way, may be you can consider to attend the summer concerts at the stairs of the castle, under the moomlight with me.

Laura and Harry I am very grateful to you for helping my self confidence in awake experiences. Love- ilkin

Date: May 19, 2004 on 07:44 a.m.
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Ilkin: Ah so we found the same place in our dreams - that's a bit scary - makes me shudder - but I am delighted that it was such a place and that it was you who was there. Still - a BIT SCARY!!!!
love to you Ilkin and to istanbul and its towers and its love of music and dance,
Kathy
Date: May 19, 2004 on 02:31 p.m.
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elif (May 19, 2004 07:44 a.m.):
What kind of a musical instrument Orpheus have? It didn't come to my mind to think about the music. If my memory is right, they play lir (and /or some old instruments) in Carmina Burana.

Ilkin -
Yes, Orpheus was renowned as a lyrist and singer. He met his end when his harping intruded on a group of women celebrating a ritual of Dionysius. They tore him limb from limb and decapitated him. His head, however, continued to sing as it floated down the river, until Apollo asked it to stop. Apollo took the lyre and made it his own.

Carmina Burana doesn't use any ancient instruments, but the other two parts of the triptych (Catulli Carmina, Triompho di Aphrodite) do.

Curt

Date: May 19, 2004 on 02:32 p.m.
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I wonder if everyone has his/ her own method for awake RV or is there a common way?

Kathy, no need for chilling we use the castle (?) as an open concert hall in summer.

Thanks for the information Curt. I am not very good in classical music. Last time I listened Carmina Burana was 4 years before. After reading your information on Orpheus I made a little search in the internet. Goshengolly pointed out a very important issue for me. Goshengolly, your "precognative" dream made me to look my previous dreams and I found a similarity with Eurydice's story (bitten by snake, going underground etc) and a dream of mine two days before the experiment, which I sent to Drem Town and WDPB. Seems like; if I thought about looking the previous dreams for a precognative information they might give me more information. Good to learn everyday. Thanks to you all.- ilkin

13 May 2004

Snakes / energy…

There are snakes hanging in the air, a little higher than me. They are like floating in the emptiness. They look like fried fish and yellowish. I am collecting and eating them one by one. I am putting their bones in a white towel and putting aside. Eating them supposed to turn human into a kind of energy. To make this energy useful, one has to pass a tunnel from one to another side of the earth. The tunnel is at the east to west midsection of the earth, passing from the core. I am entering to tunnel to pas it.

I am reaching to a green field from the tunnel. There are some buildings of health around. A young woman asks me for help. I am helping her to take her baby secretly from a white room. We are taking a kind of vehicle. It looks like a train from outside but a series of houses from inside. I am sensing that it is moving by our energy.

Date: May 20, 2004 on 03:06 a.m.
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Congratulations everyone with these great results. I was really impressed. I'm looking forward to see whether we will be able to improve on this.

The next challenge should be early June. I'm always looking for volunteer target providers, so drop me an email if you're interested.

I'm bookmarking two links here. I was looking for more information about the ascension itself, whether it perhaps had something in common with the Phoenix (Terry emailed me about that). Anyway, here's something from encyclopedia.com and from timelessmyths.com.

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Date: May 20, 2004 on 04:22 a.m.
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